Tuesday, June 27, 2017

Votes and Money: Support for the Market is an Issue That Can Make a Difference Come Election Time

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English: Promotional photograph of the new City Hall building in Oakland, California, circa 1917. Built in 1914 at a cost of US$2M, "this unique and beautiful building... symbolizes the aspirations and progress of the City." Photograph commissioned by Oakland Chamber of Commerce, Publicity Bureau. Photographer from Cheney Photo Advertising Co. Original photo part of Oakland Public Library, Oakland History Room. "Public domain. No restrictions on use." (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Nothing new on the market front today, so I thought I'd make an obvious point: How a politician comes down on this issue can make a difference regarding who one supports in future elections.

Sometimes choosing where to invest one's vote - and enthusiasm and cash support - gets confusing when it comes to local elections in a place like Oakland where almost all candidates have similarly progressive views on national issues. In other words, few of the candidates are initially off-putting when one considers their views on nuclear war, women's rights or the border wall even though those views usually matter very little in the greater scheme of things - by which I mean 1) most candidates feel more or less the same way on these issues, and 2) when will they really have an opportunity to act on these values on the local level in a way that is more than symbolic?

Symbolism matters, but Nuclear Free Zones are really just political theater.

Sometimes it's hard to tease out just what the crucial differences are between candidates for - shall we say - the city council because they all seem to be the kind of person you would enjoy having the proverbial beer with - if the discussion stayed on Donald Trump and global warming.

But when it comes to making that final choice regarding - shall we say - how to cast a vote for council, it can be a challenge to figure out just what you're voting for. Local radio, newspapers and TV don't give you much useful information on the concrete question of what candidates would actually do in office.  You have to work to get cogent analysis of who actually means what. (Goodby Oakland Tribune. Hello East Bay Times. Thank you East Bay Express.)

Often you have to rely on public candidate forums (with double digit participants), on mailers, on endorsements from advocacy groups and from current office holders and from 'opinion leaders,' those friends and neighbors who don't seem to be completely full of it (appropriate emoji).

Once folk are elected, however, some things start to come clear - if you're paying attention. Where officeholders come down on the question of who will manage the market is an issue that can influence which candidate a voter will support in future elections. This voter anyway.

Monday, June 26, 2017

Stop the Amazonification of Oakland

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Photograph by: Andrei Metelkine Location: La Romana, Dominican Republic Category:La Romana (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Yes, that's a provocative headline, but it does make a point about efforts to dial back the Grand Lake Farmers Market by pushing out the sellers (and makers) of crafts, of non-food items. That is the stated intention of at least some of those who want to remove AIM (Agricultural Institute of Marin) as market manager.

One of the benefits of the market is generating sales tax revenue for Oakland based on the sale of non-food items. It is legitimate to worry about the sale of certain things at the market eroding the sales of certain neighborhood merchants, but years ago when my wife and I were on the committee that selected AIM in the first place, one of the points the group made was that the benefits of the market - more foot traffic on market day which results in more foot traffic, and more shopping, on other days as market goers experience the general attraction of the neighborhood  - far outweigh the fact there is some overlap between things sold at the market and things sold in the neighborhood.

AIM says it has data to support that position, and our conversations with neighborhood merchants suggest that benefit is generally true and that what we have at work at our current market is an illustration of the Utilitarian principle - the greatest good for the greatest number. It is certainly true that the fact the market is broad based helps achieve a kind of critical mass in which market goers are drawn by the market's rich variety. It's not just about farm produce, and that is part of the market's charm.

I recall walking through a city market in Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic many years ago and how much I was dazzled and delighted by the profusion of vendors, of activities, of people. I am told that some who dislike the current market are in fact put off by the hustle and hurly-burly, that they prefer the kind of sedate shopping you get at Safeway if you go at off hours. But personally I love the energy of the market that comes from the mix of vendors and the mix of people drawn by those vendors.

Back to the clickbait headline. It was my wife's insight. She makes the entirely reasonable argument that supporting local retail in its battle with 'etail' is almost a duty. She is committed to buying in the neighborhood for many reasons, one of which is that when you go Amazon Prime, Oakland loses tax revenue. Bottom line is that a market that sells more than groceries has a ripple effect that ends with money in Oakland's coffers.

Now for an anecdote. Last Saturday my wife fell into conversation with a market vendor, also a neighborhood resident, who makes things which she sells at the market. (My wife did not get permission to use her name, though this week she will ask.) This craftsperson told my wife she has had heated conversations with one of those who opposes AIM and, in particular, wants to boot the craft sellers out. She told my wife that this particular individual told her that her being tossed from Grand Lake Market would be no inconvenience, that all her other markets would provide income enough.

What other markets! she told my wife. Grand Lake is her only market and if she got forced out, how would she survive? The plural of anecdote **is** data - if you get enough of them.

Saturday, June 24, 2017

Councilmember Guillen Held Court at Market Today

Fight the Power
Fight the Power (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
Oakland Councilmember Abel Guillen held al fresco office hours at the Grand Lake Farmers Market today, and why would he do that unless it's an act of public engagement in the battle over the market's future? When I asked, he confirmed that most of those who talked with him about the market this morning supported AIM, the current managers.

This is not surprising. If you're at the market, you have already self selected. Your presence suggests de facto support for the market as I'm sure Councilor Guillen well understands. Thus, I like to think, he would have avoided the market if his agenda was anti-AIM. I like to think the community is speaking, and he is listening.

But who knows? One of the four women who were key players in the fight against Trader Joe's nearly 20 years ago, and who is now anti-AIM, buttonholed Guillen and told him (he said) that she was the one responsible for saving the park and establishing the market back in the day.

The One.

This boast upsets me not because it's self-aggrandizing and inaccurate, a historical insight of which I am confident because I watched my own wife spend days, months and finally years (and money sad/sad emoji) talking to locals, talking to neighborhood merchants, creating petitions and spending hours on the phone working off those petitions urging people to come to public meetings and otherwise Fight the Power. I am not saying that my wife was first among equals when it came to saving the park and creating the market, but I am quite comfortable saying she tied for first.

But I don't feel the need to say this apropos of nothing in the middle of casual conversation. My wife can take care of herself. However, I am upset with others minimizing or actively ignoring her role - and, as I've just said, of several other women - because if Guillen believes this particular woman was a community powerhouse then (the sine qua non, the straw that stirred the drink) he might believe she is a community powerhouse now and speaks for many against the market, an imagined past serving as a lens that distorts the present.

Thus, rather than keeping my mouth shut as I usually do and letting others build heroic narratives of their distant lives - for we all need something to keep us warm at night - I feel the need to say no no no. Four women did good work back in the day. And that was then and this is now. Today, Councilor, do your own research and your own listening. He said city staff were working on a proposal regarding a new AIM lease, so I hope they are researching and listening.

A note: Why don't my wife and I give the names of those with whom we contend in this battle for the future of the market? I was a journalist for 16 years and have been a journalism professor and freelance writer for 25 more. One of the big changes in journalism in this century is the rise of the Internet, which means - among other things - that when one does a name search today, obscure blog posts and news stories (sometimes, as I have personally witnessed, stories from college newspapers about juvenile antics) appear to the potential embarrassment of the person referenced. Thus, we name no names, though if you click a few links and otherwise pursue the story, you can easily find out who is on the other side of this argument in which my wife and I are engaged.

But we have to live with these people when this is over. I am trying to save the market in its current state, not gratuitously attack and embarrass anyone.

Friday, June 23, 2017

Our Recent Letter to Local Pols Expressing Support of Grand Lake Farmers Market

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English: Aerial view of city of Oakland, California. Lakeside Park, Lake Merritt in center, Laney College to the right of that, Downtown Oakland right below the lake, Interstate 580 on left, Interstate 980 on bottom, Oakland Inner Harbor Channel and Government Island in upper right. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)
RE:  Grand Lake Farmers Market, managed by Agricultural Institute of Marin (AIM)

DATE:  June 19, 2017
TO:  Assorted Oakland Politicians
FROM:  Edith Landrith-Robertson, registered Architect and Community activist

City staff in their January 24th Council report recommended to City Administrator Sabrina Landreth that the Agricultural Institute of Marin (AIM) be granted a 5-year ‘lease’ to continue managing the highly successful Grand Lake Farmers Market at Splash Pad Park.  I support AIM’s continued management of the market as do many others, people who weekly vote with their feet by shopping at the market.  AIM’s market, repeatedly voted the ‘premiere market of the East Bay,’ has been instrumental in revitalizing the neighborhoods surrounding Splash Pad Park, particularly the retail on nearby Lakeshore and Grand avenues.  Our vital retail businesses provide tax revenue to the City.  I was one of the individuals who nearly 20 years ago was on the ‘original’ farmers market committee that selected what was then the Marin Farmers Market group.  We selected them (now AIM) because they were the most experienced, most sophisticated farmers group we evaluated and because, of the three groups considered (one managing the Old Oakland market and the other the Sunday Jack London Square market), AIM was the only group who explicitly promised it would:

Create a physically attractive market to appeal to people;
Create a market which would be seen as a ‘neighborhood’ community gathering place;
Work with the local business to develop vibrant retail in the neighborhood;
Create events that would appeal to a wide range of citizens; and
Select vendors based on what would appeal to market goers.

The Marin Farmers Market, now AIM, did what they promised and more.  Then and now they have the most expertise in running a quality high-volume farmers market.  They did it in spite of the fact that during the first several years of the market, an Oakland politician, since departed, tried to prevent the development of a successful market, having pushed instead that a Trader Joe's be located on public land, on Splash Pad Park.

Today there are those who would replace not just a good thing but a great thing with something of unknown quality.  “Why mess with success, enormous success?” There is a very small group of neighborhood individuals who are unhappy with AIM’s market. (See appendix to this memo addressing some of their claims.)  They seem to have convinced themselves - and a few others - that they represent the will of the community, a boast based in part on the claim that two of them are the key individuals who so many years ago saved the park from being developed by Trader Joe’s.  Some in authority apparently believe, based on their past claims, that they did things that they did not do and represent people they do not.  This memo is in part a challenge to their claims, which I would not undertake if they were not trying to destroy what is and has been a significant asset to the City and my community by using rewritten history to bolster their attack.

If you, person of authority, believe that certain individuals now opposed to AIM’s market have enhanced credibility because of their alleged roles in the original saving of the park and establishing of the farmers market, I caution you against accepting their claims at face value because most of their claims have little merit.  I know what was done, who did what and who represented the community because I was the first individual who spoke out at a community meeting at Lakeshore Baptist Church against Councilman John Russo’s proposal to ‘give the park to developers’; who was the first citizen quoted by the late columnist Peggy Stinnett of the Oakland Tribune in her first column (of many) written to save Splash Pad Park; and who worked with my Pulitzer-nominated journalist husband for several years, mostly behind the scenes, to help save Splash Pad Park from developers.  But I'm not claiming *I* saved the park.  Four women led the neighborhood effort, and it was a shared effort. One of those today leading the effort to supplant AIM (not one of the four women) did have a leading role back then in the design – I would say flawed design - of the park once it was saved from development. But if he is presented to you as the ‘man who saved the park and started the farmers market’ – emphatically not.  No, not even close.  He came late to the battle to fight off Trader Joe's, and indeed told me and my husband more than once that he supported John Russo, the council member pushing TJ's.  Evaluate any claims about the will of the neighborhood skeptically and empirically, not based on the supposed authority of those making the claims.

What matters is that if you take a dispassionate look, you will discover that AIM runs an outstanding market, and its patrons love it.  This success did not just happen.  As part of the effort to save the park, several individuals – my husband and myself included - worked to get a high-quality market manager to run a Saturday farmers market in Splash Pad Park.  AIM was selected for that purpose, and their Splash Pad Park farmers market has been wildly successful.  AIM’s market is one of the primary reasons for our neighborhood’s current vitality (as well as that of the neighborhoods that ring Lake Merritt).  AIM’s market has transformed my neighborhood, invigorating viable retail, and it has done so by bringing large numbers of people to its weekly market.   The boarded-up stores that once lined our streets prior to the market’s initiation – we moved to the neighborhood in 1991; we have seen the changes - are now successful businesses.  Today the whole area is seen as a ‘happening place” and as such contributes to Oakland’s image as a diverse, vibrant city.  To destroy the AIM market on the hope someone better will take their place is to take a chance, to risk tarnishing our neighborhood’s positive image, an image to a great degree created by the market.  The image of the market influences the image of the area’s neighborhoods, their businesses and the City at large.  “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!”  And, “Why mess with a good thing?”

Because we intimately know the history of the farmers market, because we intimately know the individuals and the claims they make regarding that history and who they represented then and who they represent now - and we know the claims to be far from accurate - we ask that you actually talk to the market-goers. In this memo, we will not delve further into the history of saving the park and creating the market nor speculate why a few individuals are doing what they are doing to oust ‘AIM’ as market managers (although my husband says an article about the saving of the park, the conflicts and the personalities involved, is a project for his retirement), we instead want to emphasize what AIM’s market has done for the community and the City, and because of that we urge you to talk to the many, many people who love the market and hear them and not just listen to the few who represent only themselves.  Again, please talk to numerous market goers and you will find, as I did, a farmers market frequented by:

Local individuals who love the market;
Individuals from all over Oakland who love the market;
Individuals from neighboring cities who love the market; and
Individuals visiting Oakland and the market from all over California and the country --- who love the market.

People take friends and visiting family to the market to show off Oakland, to show Oakland at its best.  The Farmers Market provides not just goods and services and a gathering place for citizens and, of course, tax revenue (market and retail district), but it is in itself a quality ‘public relations’ venue showing Oakland to be a vibrant, multicultural place, a happening place, where people desire to be.  It is the Agricultural Institute of Marin that has created it, and they are responsible for continuing to develop an ‘event’ that is seen so positively.

A few individuals are unhappy with AIM’s market, but the larger community is happy, very happy with AIM’s Grand Lake Farmers Market.  The few who object are far outnumbered by hundreds who love the market.  We ask that you look at and talk to the happy market goers who regularly frequent the market.  There are thousands of them and they joyously support AIM’s wonderful Oakland weekly event.  In this age of Trump, one should be careful in crediting loud claims that lack persuasive support.

Appendix: Save Our Market:  Rebuttal of Claims made by individuals who object to AIM’s management

Following are the most relevant claims made by a handful of individuals who oppose AIM’s continued management of the Grand Lake Farmers Market at Splash Pad Park with responses to some of their accusations.   The position of a few individuals in the community seems to be specifically crafted to cast AIM as a bad manager of the market.  The accusations by the small group seem to be designed simply to discredit AIM.  It is alarming to see what is happening in Washington being repeated here in Oakland, in our own backyard.  Facts are facts and truth is truth. These claims should be closely examined and evaluated.

1. Gravel path (decomposed granite):  Individuals are claiming that the wear of the gravel pathways is caused by AIM’s poor management of the farmers market and site.  I, Edith Landrith-Robertson, registered architect, attended a design meeting nearly 20 years ago when the park was being re-designed to accommodate the Grand Lake Farmers Market.  That meeting was attended by the design landscape architect, neighborhood individuals and myself.  I was told of the meeting and asked to attend by a committee individual who thought ‘wrong design decisions’ were being made by the landscape architect and neighborhood representatives and requested that I attend and comment on the design.  I attended that meeting and commented as I had been asked to do.  At that meeting, because of my experience with parks and public projects, I told the design group that the material being proposed for the majority of the walkways within Splash Pad Park was an inappropriate material for the proposed use.  It was, I said, not durable, would not hold up to light foot traffic, let alone heavy traffic.  I explained that the material could be easily dislodged, and when that happened it would almost certainly become a tripping hazard, a liability for the City and for that reason should not be installed in the heavily used park.  The designer, with the approval of neighborhood individuals, ignored my warning and approved decomposed granite.  Decomposed granite was installed and failed almost immediately.  I find it disingenuous now that the very neighborhood resident who approved of the use of a material (decomposed granite), a material which can never hold up to foot traffic, now blames the farmers market (AIM) for the poor condition of the paths.  He is blaming the logical outcome of his recommendation and the original poor design decision on the farmers market managers, Agricultural Institute of Marin, who was not part of choosing the wrong material for the park in the first place.  If the gravel is replaced today, tomorrow it will be kicked out because that is the nature of loose fill. Decomposed granite is simply the wrong material for the heavily used paths of Splash Pad Park.  It was a bad design decision and should, because it is a liability, be replaced.  But don’t blame AIM for the problem.

2. Local group wants to manage market:  Though he currently denies this, in the past a neighborhood individual has said the group which he leads wants to manage the market.  That man (who wants AIM out as market manager) stated two months ago at a neighborhood meeting that he and his group would like to run their own farmers market at Splash Pad Park.  They lack any expertise in managing a farmers market.  Managing a successful farmers market is not a job for amateurs. “Talk is cheap,” and turning over a highly successful market to a group that knows nothing of running a farmers market would almost certainly result in a decline of the Grand Lake Farmers Market.

3. Revenue Generated By the Market:  Last month the leader of the group that wants to run their own farmers market said at a meeting that if he ran the market he would pay the City more for running the market at Splash Pad Park than AIM is currently paying.  If any market manager paid more to use the site, that would be nice, but it is not just what a market management group pays the City to use the site that brings revenue into a city: It is what the market brings into a city (via sales taxes) as a result of the market’s activities that generates the bulk of the revenue from which the city benefits.  AIM’s Grand Lake Farmers Market at Splash Pad Park generates a significant amount of revenue through non-food vendors (which incidentally members of this group have stated they would like to eliminate) and especially by the business generated by farmers market attendees shopping in the retail establishments on Grand and Lakeshore Avenues.  Shopping in local stores and eating in local restaurants generates sales tax revenue for the City of Oakland. The man may pay more for use of the site, but if it is a lesser quality farmers market that replaces AIM’s market - and a drop off in quality is a likely bet no matter who might be chosen to replace AIM - then sales tax revenue will drop and the overall City income from the farmers market decreases.

4. Grass:  A few in the neighborhood blame the condition of the grass on the market managers (AIM).  The fact is that this winter Oakland received about 50% more rain than in an average year, and that made sod, sod in the park and in anyone’s yard, a muddy mess when walked on.  Grass can be re-grown.  Other than the grass, in my opinion the plantings in the park (my first degree was in biology) could have been better laid out, and, I believe, a different selection of plants would have been more attractive.  Originally the designer proposed Lombardy Poplars, but thankfully used maples instead and at least the trees fare better than other plants in the park.

5. Pavement discoloration:  A few neighborhood activists are ‘upset’ by the fact that there is some staining of pavers and asphalt in Splash Pad Park as a result of farmers market vendors and farmers market attendees.  I say, yes there is some staining, but considering that the park has been the site of a busy market for almost two decades, that is not surprising.   Some staining would likely have occurred even if a market had not been on the site.  Disneyland and Disney World both steam clean their walkways at the end of each day to keep walks pristine.  Periodical steam cleaning of stained pathways and gathering spaces would make the park ‘cleaner’ and no one would object to that, but, this claim, it seems to me, is simply a way to try to find something wrong with our wonderful market, so that individuals can push out the current managers who over the years have done an outstanding job.

6. Parking problems. The essence of this criticism is that the success of the market makes it difficult to find a parking place during market hours on Saturday and that AIM should do something about it. How to go about unpacking this complaint?  When my husband and I go to market, usually it takes five to ten minutes to find a parking place. But we always find a parking place.  If we did not love the market so much, we would go home – or never venture forth in the first place.  A handful of local residents seem to want a small-scale, mildly repulsive farmers market to which they can go without the rude jangle of rubbing elbows with the masses.  This, of course, is a recipe for soon there being no farmers market at all.  When my husband and I moved to the neighborhood in 1991, Lakeshore Avenue had so little foot traffic we wondered what was wrong with the neighborhood.  Today we relish those moments when the street is most busy, when it is alive.  What seems an inconvenience to others seems to us a welcome sign of neighborhood health.  The benefits of the market far outweigh any problems with parking.  As Oakland A’s season ticket holders, my husband and I have gone to many games in recent years where parking is easy, and we have had half a row to ourselves to watch our beloved, beautiful, bumbling A’s. Guess why that is so.  Is that what you want for our farmers market?

NOTE:  One aspect of the new lease with AIM addresses parking.  It is my understanding that parking will again be available at Lake Park School site.

Some things at the market can be improved, but why would any individuals try to destroy something that is so positive.  If one sits and observes the market, one is struck by the pleasure Oakland citizens and guests alike get from AIM’s quality farmers market at Splash Pad Park.  Improve yes, but destroy NO!  People are voting with their feet and that voting shows AIM’s Grand Lake Farmers Market is loved, much loved.  Keep our market!  Save our market!

Here is a link to a full statement of the criticisms of AIM’s management of the market. Here is the conclusion of that statement that makes clear the essence of its position.

Considering the long term lack of support from the current management – combined with our limited expectations for future improvements, we’d recommend that the city issue an RFP inviting other market operators to submit bids.  We’d also consider organizing a community non-profit for this purpose that would ensure more local participation and be able to pour some of the proceeds into Splash Pad Park improvements – as well as contribute more financially to the City of Oakland.

RFP means Request for Proposal and in this context means terminating AIM, though they can reapply.  The recommendation is to fire AIM in spite of the excellent job the group has done, replacing it either with those with no experience in running a market or, best case, with another market management group which has never run a market as complex and challenging as the Grand Lake market.  The latter choice would almost certainly result in many of the current farmers being kicked out since every market manager has its own group of farmers.  Yes, AIM could reapply, but the momentum for change – for pie in the sky, for glittering promises – would be great since that is the way the politics of a situation like this works.

Abel Guillen represents the district where Grand Lake Farmers Market is located.  We have heard - unconfirmed - that the mayor and other council members will follow his lead when it comes to renewing the contact with AIM. If you care about who runs the market, here's how he can be contacted.

Office of Councilmember Abel Guillén, District 2
1 Frank H. Ogawa Plaza
2nd Floor
Oakland, CA 94612
Phone: 510-238-7002
Fax: 510-238-6910

This link allows you to make comments to him directly.

Thursday, June 1, 2017

Our Market Handout Attracts Attention

My wife and I are traveling and won't be able to respond to this in detail until early next week, But let me just say that unfortunately none of the information in the petition is fiction.

The following is from Ken Katz Splash Pad News.


The author of the flyer and petition that are being distributed at the farmers market has created what is essentially a work of pure fiction and a point-by-point response is warranted.
The “few people in the neighborhood” who are leading the campaign for an RFP that would solicit bids from other management teams includes Jerry Barclay, the Chair of the Splash Pad Farmers Market Advisory Group, who was appointed by Pat Kernighan, and me, who served as community liaison during planning for Splash Pad Park construction and who, until fairly recently, was the Farmers Market’s biggest booster. We have significant community support for our RFP request.
The author of the flyer claims that we don’t “like the market’s popularity.” To the contrary, we love the market’s popularity but hate the congestion that’s driving a significant number of our neighbors to shop elsewhere. We’ve presented the market management with a list of simple fixes that they’ve declined to implement.
The claim that we don’t want (prepared) food vendors or crafts is just totally preposterous. The overwhelming consensus supports the current market mix and variety.
What motivates Jerry and me so strongly is our experience in dealing, for over a decade, with a Marin-centric organization that has been reluctant to do much of anything to protect the park and serve the community. With the distinct possibility that they could lose what’s been a cash cow, the Agricultural Institute of Marin (AIM) has suddenly begun to “get religion.”
Two years ago, AIM’s attorney told the City they could only afford to pay $800 per month. Now they’re apparently also promising to contribute a six-figure sum for park improvements in return for a five-year lease.  The management team that chose not to provide Oakland school children with the same opportunities they offered to kids in Marin has suddenly announced that they’re bussing two classes across the bridge for a farm tour – which they claim is coincidental.  Same goes for the fact that, for the first time in eighteen years, they hired an Oakland resident to work the Grand Lake Market – who also happens to be the first person of color. This is just a sample from a long list of accommodations that AIM has made under duress. If they’re granted a lease, we have little confidence in their willingness to go the extra mile.
Regardless of who ends up with the farmers market lease, the city has to establish stringent and comprehensive operational guidelines to protect the park infrastructure and ensure that the market is more people-friendly and less congested. Just as importantly, they have to provide strict enforcement, which has been totally lacking since the market moved into the new park in 2003.  A community-based, non-profit board would have those two goals as a top priority. In addition, it would be in a position to utilize the substantial profits from the market for much-needed park repairs and also pay a monthly rental fee in keeping with the City’s Master Fee Schedule. A community-based, non-profit board would also be more inclined to support local institutions, neighborhood businesses, and the community as a whole. I’d add that I believe we’re also better prepared to support the Grand Lake Market vendors than has AIM. To wit, the only list of Grand Lake vendors is THIS ONE on the Splash Pad website.